More Links on Kerfuffle about Friedman’s Sanders Analysis

Here are more links related to the kerfuffle surrounding our columnist Gerald Friedman’s research paper on the likely macroeconomic effects if Bernie Sanders economic policies were implemented. (Find the full 53-page paper here.)

David Dayen, The New Republic,  The Pious Attacks on Bernie Sanders’s “Fuzzy” Economics.  “I don’t feel it necessary to defend Friedman, though it’s worth pointing out that his economic growth numbers would simply eliminate the GDP gap [links to the FT Alphaville piece we linked to the other day] that was created by the Great Recession and was never filled in the subsequent years of slow growth—which should be the goal of public policy, however “extreme” it sounds. What I do want to challenge is the idea that there’s one serious, evidence-based way to perform economic forecasting. The truth is that most economic forecasts that look several years into the future are flawed, almost by definition.”

Dean Baker, HuffPo, The Four Economists’ Big Letter. Dean says he agrees with the substance of the CEA ex-chair’s critique (he’s skeptical of Friedman’s growth projections), but not their “tone” of authority. “I respect all four of these people as economists, but I want to hear their argument, not their credentials. How about just giving the evidence? It might not be as dramatic, but it could have considerably more impact.” More recently at his CEPR blog Beat the Press, there’s this from Dean: President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers Confirms Sanders’ Growth Projections, in which he discusses a section of the 2016 Economic Report of the President and a section “an that provides insight into the question of how fast the economy can grow, and more importantly how low the unemployment rate can go” and the non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment (NAIRU). Obama’s CEA report “is hardly an endorsement of the specifics or the even the size of the Sanders agenda (and certainly not the now famous growth projections from Gerald Friedman), but it does argue for pushing the envelope in terms of bringing down the unemployment rate.” (Why Dean is engaged in line-drawing here, subtly suggesting that Jerry’s not credible, is beyond me.)

Gerald Friedman, Response to Krugman.  A response to a really condescending blog post by Krugman, Lack of Power Corrupts.  Krugman really smears Friedman.

Bill Black, New Economic Perspectives blog, Krugman and the Gang of 4 Need to Apologize for Smearing Gerald Friedman.  Excellent skewering of the “Gang of 4” CEA ex-chairs. See also Yves Smith’s introduction to her reposting of Bill’s post at Naked Capitalism, Krugman and His Gang’s Libeling of Economist Gerald Friedman for Finding That Conventional Models Show That Sanders Plan Could Work.

Richard Wolff, via email: “As a colleague of Jerry Friedman for decades, I know directly of his consistently careful work in economic history and applied economics, his exceptional commitment to teaching, and the immense time and effort he has committed to doing detailed explorations of the economics of health insurance–explorations his detractors might have learned from had their commitments not been otherwise. Shame on them.”

J.W. Mason, at his blog (The Slack Wire), Plausibility.  A follow up to the earlier post of his we linked to, Can Sanders Do It?. He gives two scatter-plot graphs, one showing “the initial deviation of real per-capita GDP from its long run trend, and the average growth rate over the following ten years, for 1925 through 2005,” the other showing the same thing for just 1947-2005 (so it eliminates the Depression and WWII years). He argues that for either, Friedman’s GDP growth projections don’t look so implausible; even less so if you take out “the seven points well below the line in the middle are 1999-2005, whose 10-year growth windows include the Great Recession.” His upshot: “Should the exceptionally poor performance of this period make us more pessimistic about medium-term growth prospects (it’s sign of supply-side exhaustion) or more optimistic (it’s a sign of a demand gap that can be filled)? This is not an easy question to answer. But just counting up previous growth rates won’t help answer it.” His earlier blog post has been republished under a new title at the Jacobin website: When Wonks Attack.  Subtitle/teaser: “Beltway wonks are dismissing Bernie Sanders’s economic plan as unserious and unrealistic. Here’s why they’re wrong.”

Brad DeLong, at his blog (Grasping Reality…) No: We Can’t Wave a Magic Demand Wand Now and Get the Recovery We Threw Away in 2009.  Responding to the Mike Konczal post we linked to. I wish people would stop the talk of magic wands and unicorns and fantasy and voodoo and puppies and unicorns. It’s just uncharitable and undignified. It reminds me of the infantilizing language Republicans and Clintonites use about Sanders’ proposals (e.g., saying that he’s promising people “free stuff” including “free ponies”). It’s that grown-up stance, talking down to the rest of us.

Kevin Drum, Mother Jones blog, On Second Thought, Maybe Bernie Sanders’ Growth Claims Aren’t As Crazy As I Thought.  Back-pedaling, in light (it seems) of Jamie Galbraith’s full-throated defense of the plausibility of Friedman’s analysis.   No apology for calling his GDP growth projections “insane” without having examined the analysis. (I asked for an apology on Twitter. But that never works.)

Jasper Craven, VTDigger.org, Economist, Others, Defend Sanders ‘Stimulus’ Plans as Realistic. A local Vermont summary of the kerfuffle. Hat-tip Nancy B. A nice piece (though he identifies the D&S Economy in Numbers columns as Jerry’s reports, but again, Jerry’s main Sanders report is “yuge”–some 53 pages long, including appendices and sources).

Andrew Perez and David Sirota, International Business Times‘ Political Capital blog, Bernie Sanders Economic Plans Questioned By Critics With Ties To Wall Street, Hillary Clinton.

Ron Baiman, Postscript (Feb 21) to his earlier D&S blog post (Feb 19), The Poverty of Neoclassical Analysis: “Unfortunately, even, politically liberal, mainstream or ‘Neoclassical’, economists do not believe that massive increases in effective demand, or other large scale public spending and policy measures, can produce lasting major and fundamental structural changes in the economy (in spite of the examples of the New Deal, WWII, etc. ). They also don’t accept Verdoorn’s law (which Friedman employs) in spite of numerous empirical studies and common sense validation: long-term growth in demand leads to increased investment and thus increases in productivity and by implication structural changes in the economy. NC ‘Keynesians’ believe only in short-term Keynesianism — not in a long term principle of effective demand. To the extent that Friedman (rightly) employs a long-term ‘Post Keynesian’ principle like Verdoorn’s law (in addition to all of the other standard techniques that he uses) he crosses a line that NC economists will not cross. I belatedly remembered after writing and posting this piece, that Friedman had employed Verdoorn’s Law in his study of the long-term economic impact of Bernienomics.”

And in case you missed it two weeks ago:

Tami Luhby, CNN Money (Feb. 8), Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says. The article that likely ignited the kerfuffle (rather than our two columns by Friedman based on his research); this is where a large audience saw Friedman’s big GDP growth estimates. And this is where the Sanders campaign appeared to endorse Friedman’s findings. “Sanders’ policy director, Warren Gunnels, also defended the estimates, noting the candidate is thinking big.”

That’s it for now. I’m sure there will be another follow-up to this post.

6 thoughts on “More Links on Kerfuffle about Friedman’s Sanders Analysis”

  1. The TiSA trade bill hopes to liberalize both services and procurement which could result in a lot of job loss as well as detach government spending from US job creation, because there would be no guarantee that spending would go to US companies or US workers, their costs would likely be too high to win jobs here in the US.

    Also, TiSA would prevent Sanders’s health care plan completely, too..

    A similar analysis was done of GATS and its blocking of various means to effectuate affordable healh care a few years back. Its here: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.405.5725&rep=rep1&type=pdf Its very much worth reading!

  2. Just found:
    Thanks to US, and WTO with India cooperation, the New Deal style spending to create local jobs preferentially is now FTA-illegal :
    http://www.iatp.org/blog/201602/obama-undermines-climate-efforts-in-solar-trade-dispute .

    No more green jobs for you! (Unless you’re the lowest qualified bidder in the world)

    This huge shift of jobs to developing countries that can offer high skill low wage labour has been in the planning stage for 25 years. Google “Progressive Liberalisation”

    —–cut here——-

    India’s solar initiative, known as the Jawaharlal Nehru National Solar Mission (JNNSM), is designed to boost the nation’s renewable energy use and create local, green jobs. India’s program requires the purchase of domestically manufactured solar cells and modules in order for companies to receive a variety of government benefits, including favorable rates for electricity purchases. The U.S. Trade Representative charged that India’s “local content requirements” violate WTO national treatment obligations (which require foreign firms to be treated the same as domestic firms). The WTO agreed.

    In responding to the WTO ruling, U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman issued a warning to other governments attempting to support local, green businesses: “This is an important outcome, not just as it applies to this case, but for the message it sends to other countries considering discriminatory `localization’ policies.”

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